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birdmanidc
11-06-2005, 05:20 AM
I Was Bored So I Took A Pic Of My Car In B/W
I Was Bored So I Took A Pic Of My Car In B/WThe scions are a pretty nice looking car. I'm kinda hoping that yota starts all new styles for the rest of there lines.
what have you done to the car?
birdmanidc
11-06-2005, 07:43 AM
The scions are a pretty nice looking car. I'm kinda hoping that yota starts all new styles for the rest of there lines.
what have you done to the car?
I just got the car like 4 weeks ago so i only have my bass and hid's installed 4 now
imp0rt_tunerz
11-06-2005, 11:52 AM
more pix!
WanganCoupe
11-06-2005, 12:32 PM
what happened to the mazdaspeed?
EF9 VTEC
11-06-2005, 01:00 PM
da tc is da only good looking..
HID's... i wannnt
JDM Isuzu
11-06-2005, 05:31 PM
Damn, I'd like some HID's too. My Sylviannia's will do for now. Nice TC, what do you wanna to do it?
Mikey
11-06-2005, 08:29 PM
Too Cute
S.e.a.n.
11-06-2005, 08:42 PM
I was gonna get one of those...but think of it more as a chick car
Stangtuner
11-06-2005, 11:35 PM
eh,.......stock........slow..........Nice Ride, make it fast
low97accord
11-06-2005, 11:55 PM
i like those cars...but i like mine better
birdmanidc
11-07-2005, 06:04 AM
what happened to the mazdaspeed?
the tranny was messed up so i traded it in
birdmanidc
11-07-2005, 06:10 AM
Here Are Some Pics Of My Hid's
the tc is by far a better tuning platform than say.. the civic lol
}{yBr!D^
11-07-2005, 02:39 PM
nice glare...
thelostbrian
11-07-2005, 03:03 PM
nice glare...
yea they throw quite a bit of glare... those headlights dont know where to put the light. but none the less i love how it looks.
maybe u can a projector retro later on alex...
the tc is by far a better tuning platform than say.. the civic lolthis is true, it has a lot of potential, namely have a larger motor from the begining. plus yota takes it in the quality department.
WanganCoupe
11-08-2005, 12:44 AM
however there are still a few drawbacks. For instance the guys with turbo ones fought with the ecu every so often. I think that they are starting to figure out how to go around it nowadays. So just recently the tC has become better than the civic in the aftermarket department.
however there are still a few drawbacks. For instance the guys with turbo ones fought with the ecu every so often. I think that they are starting to figure out how to go around it nowadays. So just recently the tC has become better than the civic in the aftermarket department.that the norm with new cars. but that's also the fun, finding ways around the factory restrictions.
birdmanidc
11-08-2005, 05:41 AM
yea they throw quite a bit of glare... those headlights dont know where to put the light. but none the less i love how it looks.
maybe u can a projector retro later on alex...
yea projector are coming in the future but for now ill stick to the glare
WanganCoupe
11-08-2005, 12:40 PM
www.hidretro.com (http://www.hidretro.com) when you're ready for projectors. THey've done a few tC's and I hear they are expensive but the work is quality.
WanganCoupe
11-08-2005, 12:42 PM
that the norm with new cars. but that's also the fun, finding ways around the factory restrictions.
Maybe for you it's fun. For everyone else. It's just expensive.
Factory restrictions add more to the cost of boosting one of these platforms.
b16dx
11-08-2005, 12:45 PM
the tC has become better than the civic in the aftermarket department.
:rolleyes:
:rolleyes:
quality over quantity lol
yordessvt
11-08-2005, 02:20 PM
So just recently the tC has become better than the civic in the aftermarket department.
so with a better platform and better aftermarket.....are they running faster than "modified" civics?
Solo2Ralf
11-08-2005, 02:24 PM
I wouldn't exactly say that the TC has surpassed the civic as a tuner platform. I don't see a army of 600+ horsepower daily driven TC's, or any being campaigned competively in any road race series.
Don't get me wrong they are nice cars, BUT I wouldnt jump the gun by saying that just yet.
how has the tc surpassed the civic in the aftermarket? countless quality turbo kits out for the civic, while only a hand ful for the tc.
countless 600 700 and 800 hp civics, how about the tc's?
i dont see tc's breaking records anywhere, while civics are still breaking ground in competition.
i think that comment was a bit far reaching, tamago, wangan, and rambone.
and about the quality... ever looked at onefab, lovefab, fullrace or any of those moainly honda companies? you cant beat full-race quality.
Stangtuner
11-08-2005, 05:04 PM
how has the tc surpassed the civic in the aftermarket? countless quality turbo kits out for the civic, while only a hand ful for the tc.
countless 600 700 and 800 hp civics, how about the tc's?
i dont see tc's breaking records anywhere, while civics are still breaking ground in competition.
i think that comment was a bit far reaching, tamago, wangan, and rambone.
and about the quality... ever looked at onefab, lovefab, fullrace or any of those moainly honda companies? you cant beat full-race quality.
the TC has only been around for like 1 year, geez give it a chance.... I'm sure you guys have seen the Greddy TC with 550hp, of the Sponsered drag car with nearly 1400hp, give it another 3 years and it will be just like the civic, civic has been around for nearly 30 years!
thelostbrian
11-08-2005, 05:17 PM
the TC has only been around for like 1 year, geez give it a chance.... I'm sure you guys have seen the Greddy TC with 550hp, of the Sponsered drag car with nearly 1400hp, give it another 3 years and it will be just like the civic, civic has been around for nearly 30 years!
exactly.... let it marinate:thumbup:
lets just sit back and see what happends
Mikey
11-08-2005, 05:26 PM
yea they throw quite a bit of glare... those headlights dont know where to put the light. but none the less i love how it looks.
maybe u can a projector retro later on alex...
every time someone blinds me because their HIDs arent set up correctly, it makes me want to bash their windows in, dump a few gallons of paint on the seats, dump a few quarts of brake fluid on their car, and slash their tires.
or mabye a molotov cocktail.
i hate that shit.
thelostbrian
11-08-2005, 05:28 PM
every time someone blinds me because their HIDs arent set up correctly, it makes me want to bash their windows in, dump a few gallons of paint on the seats, dump a few quarts of brake fluid on their car, and slash their tires.
or mabye a molotov cocktail.
i hate that shit.
lol
yordessvt
11-08-2005, 05:30 PM
exactly.... let it marinate:thumbup:
lets just sit back and see what happends
kind of like the neons srt4's.....j/k
Solo2Ralf
11-08-2005, 05:33 PM
the TC has only been around for like 1 year, geez give it a chance.... I'm sure you guys have seen the Greddy TC with 550hp, of the Sponsered drag car with nearly 1400hp, give it another 3 years and it will be just like the civic, civic has been around for nearly 30 years!
Yah but it has NOT surpassed the civic in any way shape or form as a platform.
Edit: Scratch that, the cheesy commercials are one thing I forgot to mention. "It has a boost controller, and a turbo timer, and goes WAAAAAAHHHH" lol
thelostbrian
11-08-2005, 05:38 PM
nah not yet^
my personal opnion....
i like the looks better and im just sick of seeing civics... so yea i like the tc more... as far as performance... the civic still chops it up but only time can tell...
lets see 2 yrs from now whos choppin who..
Stangtuner
11-08-2005, 05:42 PM
Yah but it has NOT surpassed the civic in any way shape or form as a platform.
Not even close.. I dont see any "Scion Nation" Commercial with Xa's and Xb's as well as TC on tv yet..
Solo2Ralf
11-08-2005, 05:51 PM
Not even close.. I dont see any "Scion Nation" Commercial with Xa's and Xb's as well as TC on tv yet..
Refer to above post. (i.e. waaaaahhh)
Solo2Ralf
11-08-2005, 05:53 PM
nah not yet^
my personal opnion....
i like the looks better and im just sick of seeing civics... so yea i like the tc more... as far as performance... the civic still chops it up but only time can tell...
lets see 2 yrs from now whos choppin who..
In 2 years we'll see how far the developement of the K motor goes.
Stangtuner
11-08-2005, 06:29 PM
In 2 years we'll see how far the developement of the K motor goes.
I say by 2010, the K series will be putting out 260hp and 200lb/ft torque @ 11000 rpm.
Solo2Ralf
11-08-2005, 06:40 PM
I say by 2010, the K series will be putting out 260hp and 200lb/ft torque @ 11000 rpm.
They've already made over 500 whp on stock blocks on boost.
Stangtuner
11-08-2005, 08:44 PM
They've already made over 500 whp on stock blocks on boost.
i'm talking about out of the factory..,:run:
Solo2Ralf
11-08-2005, 08:56 PM
Ok that has nothing to do with this. Tc 160 hp from factory. Civic Si 200.
Don't forget that the TC has been around. It is the replacement for the Toyota Celica, just extremely watered down to make it appeal to a broader customer base.
Stangtuner
11-08-2005, 08:57 PM
Ok has has nothing to do with this. Tc 160 hp from factory. Civic Si 200.
Don't forget that the TC has been around. It is the replacement for the Toyota Celica, just extremely watered down to make it appeal to a broader customer base.
they should've put them with GTS motors..
Solo2Ralf
11-08-2005, 09:05 PM
they should've put them with GTS motors..
Then you probably run into the problem of cost. I assume they wanted to keep that down since it would be under the Scion name.
quality over quantity lolvery well stated.
Phill: post the website of that guy with the TC dragster!
Mogollon Peláo
11-08-2005, 10:26 PM
I Was Bored So I Took A Pic Of My Car In B/W
looks SLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWW
how's this for a damn TC http://www.world-racing.com/vehicles.htm
that's some serios shit right there.
Solo2Ralf
11-08-2005, 11:14 PM
Woop dee doo, that's Chris Rado's purpose built tube frame chassis. Is John Force's car really a mustang??? NO
Woop dee doo, that's Chris Rado's purpose built tube frame chassis. Is John Force's car really a mustang??? NO
they also have a show TC look at that one. that's a full out TC
DETAILS:
-2005 Scion tC
-500 Turbocharged HP
-T3/T4 Hybrid turbo
-Stoptech Custom Brake kit
-19x10 in front and 19x12 in rear HRE Wheels with black inserts
-One-Off Wide Bodykit
-Secret Agent set up includes: smoke screen, oil slick, flame thrower and night vision
-Full audio and visual system
-Much more to be released soon
thats as much a tc as john forces car is a mustang. btw that car runs like shit thats why he wants to get rid of it. titans car is a much better example.
i think rado's tc went 9.30's or something in a full drag car. john fergusson did a 9.5 in a street civic. rado has a 33 inch tire, ferguson had a 24.5
Civic > TC
damn u ralf for hitting beating me to the john force thing!.
and the show car has 500 hp? again, thats like what the slow civics are making now a days
Solo2Ralf
11-08-2005, 11:24 PM
Any Joe Schmoe can hit 500 whp in a civic now. Just look at the countless posts on honda-tech.
do your looking at the first tc on that link, look at the second one
look at my second post, 500 hp isnt very impressive, espeically not from a shop car, and especially not from a shop with the money rado has. i know i got bored of that power in like a week.
damn u ralf for hitting beating me to the john force thing!.
and the show car has 500 hp? again, thats like what the slow civics are making now a daysit's one of the first to be modded, give it a little more time. i'm sure well be seeing plenty much higher than that.
i'm not saying that the TC is the almighty car, I'm just saying that they being of an all new design and having a larger motor to begin with are a platform for some very nice things to come from them.
plus i'm a yota fan, so I like them because of that as well. never cared for honda personally so never owned one. i'm now on my second yota and still love them.
look at my second post, 500 hp isnt very impressive, espeically not from a shop car, and especially not from a shop with the money rado has. i know i got bored of that power in like a week.that's why i deleted that post, but you quoted like a second before it got deleted
Solo2Ralf
11-08-2005, 11:31 PM
the tc is by far a better tuning platform than say.. the civic lol
I've never seen a Scion win a National SCCA Solo2 title in any class. ;)
it's one of the first to be modded, give it a little more time. i'm sure well be seeing plenty much higher than that.
i'm not saying that the TC is the almighty car, I'm just saying that they being of an all new design and having a larger motor to begin with are a platform for some very nice things to come from them.
plus i'm a yota fan, so I like them because of that as well. never cared for honda personally so never owned one. i'm now on my second yota and still love them.
that's why i deleted that post, but you quoted like a second before it got deleted
so everyone seems to agree its a new platform and needs more time to develop, so how exactly has it surpassed the honda?
so everyone seems to agree its a new platform and needs more time to develop, so how exactly has it surpassed the honda?in new design, the honda looks nearly the same until the new 2006 and even that's still quit similar to the previous models.
i don't think that I ever said it has supased the civic that was someone else. i'm just saying it's got a lot of protential. and i like yota.
in new design, the honda looks nearly the same until the new 2006 and even that's still quit similar to the previous models.
i don't think that I ever said it has supased the civic that was someone else. i'm just saying it's got a lot of protential. and i like yota.
not sure if you did, but someone did and your the only one argueing right now.
new design doesnt make for a better "tuning" platform.
not sure if you did, but someone did and your the only one argueing right now.
new design doesnt make for a better "tuning" platform.lol, ok i hear you. but yeah i think the car has some seriously high potential for tuning, before i moved back to florida I was looking into getting rid of the truck for a TC, but didn't because i found that i was moving back sooner than origonally thought.
i went back to were they guys do all the mods (dealer had an inhouse performance TRD shop, It was sick as hell).
I talked with a lot of the guys that were back there and they were all showing me charts and numbers as to how the TC motor was a very good platform for power. The guy there said that there shop was working on getting approval for a project TC, right before i left to come back here now 4 months ago or so they had just gotten approval and were starting work on one. from what the guy (ron i think his name was, I suck at remembering names) was saying they could conservativly make in the range of 600-700hp. He was saying that they would have to replace pretty much all the internals but wouldn't have to do anything to the block itself, no boring or anything. just crank, pistons, rings and rods and what not.
I'll try and see if i can call them up tomorrow and see what happened to the car. there shop is one of the larger competitors in the area for high performance cars, but i can't remember the name of the yota dealer that that shop was attached to. i'll see if i can call up some people that i know that still live there and see if they can tell me the name.
there is also the hendric auto dealers up there, and they do a lot of custom jobs on there vehicles as well, and compete in the events around there.
birdmanidc
11-09-2005, 06:10 AM
every time someone blinds me because their HIDs arent set up correctly, it makes me want to bash their windows in, dump a few gallons of paint on the seats, dump a few quarts of brake fluid on their car, and slash their tires.
or mabye a molotov cocktail.
i hate that shit.
lol
b16dx
11-09-2005, 11:46 AM
honda > scion
birdmanidc
12-03-2005, 12:52 AM
i just droped it and i did the tints 5% i will post pix soon
how about some color pics of the car?
birdmanidc
12-03-2005, 04:51 PM
ok ok they will be on soon
thelostbrian
12-05-2005, 01:44 AM
were still waiting !!
lol
WanganCoupe
12-05-2005, 12:19 PM
Ok that has nothing to do with this. Tc 160 hp from factory. Civic Si 200.
Don't forget that the TC has been around. It is the replacement for the Toyota Celica, just extremely watered down to make it appeal to a broader customer base.
The tC has not been around. It's a car designed off of the Toyota Avensis chassis. Do you see any Toyota Avensis in America? The engine isn't even anything like the Celica.
WanganCoupe
12-05-2005, 12:21 PM
so with a better platform and better aftermarket.....are they running faster than "modified" civics?
When I made that quote I was talking about the current civic. Like the 7th gens. This was before I know the new SI was going to hit the market. And at the end of the day the new SI is just fucking ugly.
WanganCoupe
12-05-2005, 12:28 PM
I wouldn't exactly say that the TC has surpassed the civic as a tuner platform. I don't see a army of 600+ horsepower daily driven TC's, or any being campaigned competively in any road race series.
Don't get me wrong they are nice cars, BUT I wouldnt jump the gun by saying that just yet.
So because a car makes 600hp it is driven everyday at that 600hp level. I highly doubt it. The 600hp cars are probably driven at a boost level that keeps them around 400 daily. That is what the Jamasco tC sees and it's on a stock block. It's lasted a while. Are any of those 400hp civics lasting that long on stock blocks. The K series motor may be a different story but I doubt there are completely stock B's running with that much power daily.
All it takes is money. People buy tC's because they are cheap. Sooner or later people with more money will start to buy them and build them for the hell of it. I'm sure that there will be a shop turboing the new SI soon. And maybe a year or two later more will pop up turbo on the streets. The same thing is currently happening with the tC.
www.dezod.com (http://www.dezod.com)
www.zeropointindustries.com (http://www.zeropointindustries.com)
www.scionspeed.com (http://www.scionspeed.com) (Jamasco)
www.turbonetics.com (http://www.turbonetics.com)
so far these companies have turbo kits out for the tC. I'm sure more will follow it just depends on how fast customers can come up with the cash.
The benefit of going honda is that everyone has one and they are cheap to build. On top of all this. You people are comparing a tC to older civics which I already know are easy to work on. The tC is on a different level.
Hence the tC in my opinion will be better as soon as people figure out how to work with the smart Toyota ECU.
WanganCoupe
12-05-2005, 12:36 PM
how has the tc surpassed the civic in the aftermarket? countless quality turbo kits out for the civic, while only a hand ful for the tc.
countless 600 700 and 800 hp civics, how about the tc's?
i dont see tc's breaking records anywhere, while civics are still breaking ground in competition.
i think that comment was a bit far reaching, tamago, wangan, and rambone.
and about the quality... ever looked at onefab, lovefab, fullrace or any of those moainly honda companies? you cant beat full-race quality.
Look how long the civic's have been being built compared to the tC. The tC has been out for what a year and it's already come this far. How long did it take someone to build a civic to run good consistently. ok then
about the 600, 700, 800hp civics. Gee.... a tC is a 2.4 liter stock while all these hondas are built to what..... 2.0. Soon enough there will be a few tC's making those numbers. There is no replacement for displacement no matter how good turbocharger technology will get. Even the honda guys know this which is why they sleeve to 2.0 anyway.
I've seen the quality of all those fab companies. But hell that stuff is for all out raceing. You don't need an equal length mani on the street where all it will do is crack. Your better off going with a cast one. You might lose a bit of power but you get longevity. Do you want a street car that you have to constantly rebuild shit on. The guys with all the powerful civics have other daily drivers or I'm sure they are in the process of looking for one.
WanganCoupe
12-05-2005, 12:39 PM
they should've put them with GTS motors..
no they shouldn't have. The GTS motor is good. But it was mated to an extremely weak transmission. If toyota would have put the GTS motor in it. No one would have even bothered to build one. When Jamasco decided to build a celica they did it right. They swapped in a 3SGTE the way that car should have came.
WanganCoupe
12-05-2005, 12:40 PM
I've never seen a Scion win a National SCCA Solo2 title in any class. ;)
I've never met anyone who actually gave a fuck about autocross.
WanganCoupe
12-05-2005, 12:42 PM
so everyone seems to agree its a new platform and needs more time to develop, so how exactly has it surpassed the honda?
It has surpassed the Honda because it has a Toyota engine under the hood. No other reason is needed.:owneddanc
birdmanidc
01-27-2006, 10:53 AM
here is one pic of have of my car from the back
thelostbrian
01-27-2006, 10:58 AM
here is one pic of have of my car from the back
needs boost.:naughty:
b16dx
01-27-2006, 11:51 AM
I've never met anyone who actually gave a fuck about autocross.
lmao :rofl:
silverstangde
01-27-2006, 01:11 PM
i love the scion brand
Solo2Ralf
01-27-2006, 01:57 PM
I've never met anyone who actually gave a fuck about autocross.
How many members are in the SCCA???
That comment was directed at Tamago...not at you.
birdmanidc
01-27-2006, 02:34 PM
needs boost.:naughty:
Lmao OK Then Lend Me The Money :jerkit:
GDM Z28
01-27-2006, 02:39 PM
Lmao OK Then Lend Me The Money :jerkit:
get a job :rolleyes:
lmao
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