ROUND 1: Honda Vs. Nissan

[SpdRcrChk]

We all know how fun this can be.

::clears throat::

In one corner, Nissan's latest bandwagon spokesman, the NeoVVL slutbag
http://www.japanmoottorituonti.fi/pics/sr20veneovvl.JPG

In the opposite corner, Honda's rebuttal....i-vtec whore
http://members.aol.com/CozyRLemon/TYPERen.jpg

MMMMMM....whos teh WinnaR?:dunno:

Manny, this is where you chime in w/ur Nissan JibberJabber. :D

[M.A.R.C.]

neither

[Antonio]

it depends how big is the truBo? :dunno:

[SpdRcrChk]

how big are your huevos? :)

[SpdRcrChk]

neither

agreed. 2.4L is where it's at. :o) But u know....it's a cute post for 2.0L madtytevariablevalvetimingtechnologyomghi2u skanks.

[dxcoupe]

depend on which car you put them on

[M.A.R.C.]

depend on which car you put them on

lunchbox vs bubble

[GDM Z28]

lunchbox vs bubble

scion xb vs caprice? :lawl:

[M.A.R.C.]

scion xb vs caprice? :lawl:

i said lunchbox vs bubble...

not xbox vs landbarge

[Manny]

lunchbox vs bubble
That is not fair....why not hatchback vs. hatch back?...In other words, GTiR shell vs. any Honduh bubble?;)

If you want to compare lunchbox instead, then you have to use the Coupe

[M.A.R.C.]

That is not fair....why not hatchback vs. hatch back?...In other words, GTiR shell vs. any Honduh bubble?;)

If you want to compare lunchbox instead, then you have to use the Coupe

how much do lunchboxes weigh? and if you wanna keep it 4dr vs 4dr we could go 4dr bubble or 4dr cardboard box (ef)

[SpdRcrChk]

when u guys say bubble do u mean that goldfish looking car.....aka Nissan NX? :D

[Manny]

how much do lunchboxes weigh? and if you wanna keep it 4dr vs 4dr we could go 4dr bubble or 4dr cardboard box (ef)
Lunchbox weighs approximately 26oo w/o driver

[Manny]

when u guys say bubble do u mean that goldfish looking car.....aka Nissan NX? :D
The NX is called the 'EGG'

[SpdRcrChk]

ok, can the bubble AND the egg be packed in a lunchbox w/a goldfish? LoL nevermind.

[Phil]

im hungry whos down for hooters

[M.A.R.C.]

Lunchbox weighs approximately 26oo w/o driver

jesus... that heavy!!! ok you win... coupe vs lunchbox.

[GDM Z28]

i said lunchbox vs bubble...

not xbox vs landbarge

last time i looked the xb is more of a lunch box (old school kind) then a ser and a caprice is known as the "bubble" eg is known as an egg

[Vee_Tee_Cee]

LS7 ownz all.

End game.

[GDM Z28]

jesus... that heavy!!! ok you win... coupe vs lunchbox.

how about teg vs ser? the k20-r teg went what? 12.6 @ 109 or something with bolt ons

[ROB]

how about teg vs ser? the k20-r teg went what? 12.6 @ 109 or something with bolt ons

Thats fine Treton. We know of a 200sx with a VE with just bolt ons that went 12.7 at 109. 200sx is slower but,the funny thing is that the 200sx was not fully gutted :naughty:

There should be another 12 second NA SE-R coming soon :D



EV you see what you started!

[BONH]

Thats fine Treton. We know of a 200sx with a VE with just bolt ons that went 12.7 at 109. 200sx is slower but,the funny thing is that the 200sx was not fully gutted :naughty:

There should be another 12 second NA SE-R coming soon :D



EV you see what you started!


Ever seen a K20 in an EF Sedan civic? ungawdly. mad vtak gerz be pullin yo.

[SpdRcrChk]

Thats fine Treton. We know of a 200sx with a VE with just bolt ons that went 12.7 at 109. 200sx is slower but,the funny thing is that the 200sx was not fully gutted :naughty:

There should be another 12 second NA SE-R coming soon :D



EV you see what you started!

BUAHHAAHAHA!!! 12 second N/A SE-R. That's like saying Trent's car is fast. :)

;)

[ROB]

BUAHHAAHAHA!!! 12 second N/A SE-R. That's like saying Trent's car is fast. :)

;)

Do you ahve power windows on all four windows??? :x:

[ze doktor]

howbout datsun > honda?

[ROB]

howbout datsun > honda?

:bowrofl: Datsun = Nissan > Honda

[ze doktor]

:bowrofl: Datsun = Nissan > Honda

yeah but you say Nissan and everyone starts talking SE-R.... which is far from the cream of the datsun/nissan crop. when i say datsun, people think 510 and Z

[SpdRcrChk]

^^ Well the initial post encourages a discussion regarding K20's vs. NEO-VVL motors. It's probably why B13's are being brought up (it seems to the popular swap for them nowadays). Of course, you can always feel free to start a ROUND 2 and bring the others up. ;)

[DAZE]

They both suck. But i'd go with a K20 if i had 2 choose. VVteeeeeeeec!

[ROB]

They both suck. !

Yeah and a "NEON" is any better??? :dunno:

[SpdRcrChk]

Yeah and a "NEON" is any better??? :dunno:

ahem..... :D

[ROB]

ahem..... :D


::Hands EV a glass of water so che can clear her throat::

:gtfo: :thumbup:

[Manny]

yeah but you say Nissan and everyone starts talking SE-R.... which is far from the cream of the datsun/nissan crop. when i say datsun, people think 510 and Z
That is an oxymoron. If someone says Nissan and people mention the SE-R....doesn't that mean they have made a mark on the automobile scene? It isn't any different than mentioning Datsun and thinking of the 510 & Z;)

Personally, if someone mentioned Nissan, first 2 cars to come to mind is Skyline & Silvia; even though Skyline was originally brought up Datsun. Skyline didn't make its mark till after Datsun became Nissan.

But since YOU think of the SE-R when Nissan is mentioned....it is good to see we have made a mark:thumbup:

[Manny]

They both suck. But i'd go with a K20 if i had 2 choose. VVteeeeeeeec!
...um... the above Nissan motor has "VVteeeeeeeec" too :confused: :wavey:

[ROB]

SR20> Neon 2.4L turbo motor. Anyday!!!

Nissan > Honda!

[SpdRcrChk]

i'll let that slide rob, only because i feel bad for nissan owners, stuck in slow-land forever.

[ROB]

i'll let that slide rob, only because i feel bad for nissan owners, stuck in slow-land forever.


:gtfo:








:p

[VT_]

N/A 4cyl 4TL..

[b13se-R]

i'll let that slide rob, only because i feel bad for nissan owners, stuck in slow-land forever.

uh oh...

[DAZE]

SR20> Neon 2.4L turbo motor. Anyday!!!

Nissan > Honda! Well, u smoke crack and i dont. every1 has thier own opion, some just dont make sense....such as urs. :dunno: :gtfo:

[DAZE]

in all honesty tho, i'd choose a type r motor on boost over my own any day. but, shhhhhh.

[ROB]

Well, u smoke crack and i dont. every1 has thier own opion, some just dont make sense....such as urs. :dunno: :gtfo:

So you are honestly telling that a Neon Turbo motor is better than a SR20DET? Is this what you are implying?

I think you are smoking the cheap shit bro! :rofl:

[SpdRcrChk]

he doesn't need to IMPLY srt's are better than your lunchbox....it's just a well known fact. :) You should swap an srt motor into your lunchbox robbie...it might actually move. :D LoL

;)

[ROB]

he doesn't need to IMPLY srt's are better than your lunchbox....it's just a well known fact. :) You should swap an srt motor into your lunchbox robbie...it might actually move. :D LoL

;)

EV are you kidding me??? NEVAR!!!!!!!!!!!! I enjoy not having to worry about cracking my pistons :rofl:

[99.Civic.Si-r]

Evervyone wangts to be on damn boost. Not fair.

[M.A.R.C.]

Evervyone wangts to be on damn boost. Not fair.

some of us are already there... or have done it numerous times ;) :lawl:

[SpdRcrChk]

Evervyone wangts to be on damn boost. Not fair.

Rob's car's not on boost. Persay. :lawl:

Evervyone wangts to be on damn boost. Not fair.

Yeah they're also mostly posers that can't tell the difference between a t28 and a whistle. :D

some of us are already there... or have done it numerous times ;) :lawl:

WiNNaR!!!! i think my first boosted car was back in 97? :run:

[M.A.R.C.]

Yeah they're also mostly posers that can't tell the difference between a t28 and a whistle. :D

:bowrofl:

[Phil]

:eek: in all honesty tho, i'd choose a type r motor on boost over my own any day. but, shhhhhh.


That sir is one of the most riced out comments ever...... a type R on bosst will make maybe 20-30 whp more than a standard GSR motor. thats like the people who ive built motors for with there type R we do pistons rods and sleeve it but they still want the block to say b18c5 even though nothing about the motor is type R anymore.


I guess in your eyes because it says type R it must be fast

[99.Civic.Si-r]

Marc tried to make me go boost on a built ls/vtec. I'll do it only if i can get the parts cheap and have it tuned to where i will never have to tune again.

[Phil]

thats usually the idea :0)

[99.Civic.Si-r]

*knows* But still with the all-motor thing for now. and i need a damn tuner!

[Manny]

Well, u smoke crack and i dont. every1 has thier own opion, some just dont make sense....such as urs. :dunno: :gtfo:
Dude...where have you been? Dodge named the SRT4 after the ALL-TIME great SR20DET...don't you see the similarities? SRT & SR20DET:sfawk:

While it takes a 2.4 and 35434465 PSI of boost to make 250+ whp....it takes a DET 12-13psi on a similar 'small' turbo to make 300whp:lawl:

Come 'HOLLA' @ me 15+ years down the road. I'm interested in knowing if the existence of the SRT will survive such a long time. I know the SR20DET has:gtfo:

[99.Civic.Si-r]

oooooo! (jumps out of this arguement *honda person*)

[SpdRcrChk]

manny u gotta be jokin'. SRT doesn't in any way shape or form represent the sr or t in sr20det. SRT stands for something on its own. btw, don't sr20's come w/higher compression than an srt motor? that would explain alot wouldn't it. LoL srt's have been around for a while...maybe not the srt4. but there have been srt10's for a while. in 15+ years i'm sure there wont be as many srt4's as there are sentras....they've only made srt4's for a couple of years. ;) then again who knows...i hear rumors of the srt4 motor coming in a different car soon. ::insert mollywhop:: ;)

but anyway....lets not forget the thread is called honda vs nissan not srt's vs. nissan's. neovvl vs k20. i'd like to see the showdown. maybe a white eg hatch vs. a red lunchbox? :D

[Manny]

don't sr20's come w/higher compression than an srt motor? that would explain alot wouldn't it.
Actually, that doesn't explain alot.

What compression is the SRT4?? 8:1?
SR20DET is 8.5:1...Not much of a difference in compression. Scott aka Enthalpy, mentioned 1 pt. in compression only affects power by approximately 1.5%. However, displacement is an explaination in itself. You don't hear...'There is no replacement for compression'...do you???;)
2.4 vs. 2.0....your precious SRT4 is supposed to flow 20% more air than the SR20. :lawl:
BTW...WTF was Dodge thinking when they decided to put a 1mm TB on that car?:jerkit:

[SpdRcrChk]

you're right that's not a big difference in compression. But don't say a t28 is a "similar small" turbo. SRT's come w/td04's, and they're significantly smaller. BTW it doesn't take 2938293480498 psi to make 250 on an SRT. At 17 or 18 psi (spikes) they make 270-280 on a td04. On stage 2....which is basically just a pcm reflash for most srt's....they make about 265+ iirc. :) it's ok manny...u drive a lunchbox i drive a skittle. maybe one day we can have a snack together. LoL if it makes u feel any better...i'd rather have a neo-vvl than a k-series, but only because the VwAk is so loud.

[SpdRcrChk]

BTW...WTF was Dodge thinking when they decided to put a 1mm TB on that car?:jerkit:

You're tellin' me....but I guess it doesn't really matter because even w/that kinda restriction they're still makin' power. LoL

[SpdRcrChk]

howcome there are only a few people makin worthwhile posts in this thread? LoL

[2kebpsi]

what a waste of a thread

[GDM Z28]

I'll do it only if i can get the parts cheap .

if ur gonna be cheap dont go boost.

[GDM Z28]

in all honesty tho, i'd choose a type r motor on boost over my own any day. but, shhhhhh.

a type-r so u can have mad vtec dawg?

/yourself

[ROB]

but anyway....lets not forget the thread is called honda vs nissan not srt's vs. nissan's. neovvl vs k20. i'd like to see the showdown. maybe a white eg hatch vs. a red lunchbox? :D



:ohnoes:


EV = Don King :rofl:

[SpdRcrChk]

^^ common....you know you wanna! I think it would be a cool showdown. :D hey angel's gonna be up soon...and barney's back in business (kinda). Hows about a good old fashioned nissan vs. honda showdown?! those were always fun.

[GDM Z28]

^^ common....you know you wanna! I think it would be a cool showdown. :D hey angel's gonna be up soon...and barney's back in business (kinda). Hows about a good old fashioned nissan vs. honda showdown?! those were always fun.

the only honda running is ramon and danny n danny never goes out lol

lobo - blown
damian - blown
my friend peter - not tuned
bym - havent heard from them in for ever.

it would be like ramon, danny, and the migirana (spelling?) hatch vs all.....actually that might be enough lol.

[SpdRcrChk]

yeah why not i mean.....there's still time. :) it doesn't have to be TODAY and we don't need 9281239074987 cars. But soon....u know maybe a pre-2006 bash. LoL

Besides, didn't Manny say at the beginning of this year (2005) that 2005 would be the year that nissan kicked ass. I ono man i seen more honda's makin' unGodly amounts of power this year....it's the Nissan Camps chance to redeem themselves.

[GDM Z28]

yeah why not i mean.....there's still time. :) it doesn't have to be TODAY and we don't need 9281239074987 cars. But soon....u know maybe a pre-2006 bash. LoL

Besides, didn't Manny say at the beginning of this year (2005) that 2005 would be the year that nissan kicked ass. I ono man i seen more honda's makin' unGodly amounts of power this year....it's the Nissan Camps chance to redeem themselves.

maybe by the time its ready to happen gravy will have the hatch running.

[dxcoupe]

the only honda running is ramon and danny n danny never goes out lol

lobo - blown
damian - blown
my friend peter - not tuned
bym - havent heard from them in for ever.

it would be like ramon, danny, and the migirana (spelling?) hatch vs all.....actually that might be enough lol.

how about gus, luis, narciso, danilo (all n/a hondas)

[GDM Z28]

how about gus, luis, narciso, danilo (all n/a hondas)

gus's car isnt street legal so i know he wont bring that car out

luis lives far as hell up north and id have to call him to see if he would wana come down

narciso would only bring out the daily which runs like a 13.5 if im not mistaken.

and why would we run na honda's vs boosted nissans? doesnt make much sence to me lol

[dxcoupe]

gus's car isnt street legal so i know he wont bring that car out

luis lives far as hell up north and id have to call him to see if he would wana come down

narciso would only bring out the daily which runs like a 13.5 if im not mistaken.

and why would we run na honda's vs boosted nissans? doesnt make much sence to me lol

didn't know it was only boosted nissans...that's cool

but no fast n/a nissans here?

ohh and you're right about Gus...he'll only run it at the track, and probably luis too...
and yeah narciso is running it full interior street tires coupe at the moment (although his best time has been a 13.0)...and 12.4 when he was gutted and on slick.....

[GDM Z28]

didn't know it was only boosted nissans...that's cool

but no fast n/a nissans here?

ohh and you're right about Gus...he'll only run it at the track, and probably luis too...
and yeah narciso is running it full interior street tires coupe at the moment (although his best time has been a 13.0)...and 12.4 when he was gutted and on slick.....

we have ramons hatch to take care of the na nissans :thumbup:

[ROB]

we have ramons hatch to take care of the na nissans :thumbup:

Don't sleep :p


I am not talking smack. You now me Trent. If all goes well I hope to compete with some of the NA guys. Money and time are just a factor with me. I hope to be running on point in a few months.

As for turbo cars we have a few in the works that should also be good competitors.

[GDM Z28]

Don't sleep :p


I am not talking smack. You now me Trent. If all goes well I hope to compete with some of the NA guys. Money and time are just a factor with me. I hope to be running on point in a few months.

As for turbo cars we have a few in the works that should also be good competitors.

keep ur boosted nissans but we get your cousians hatch lol

[M.A.R.C.]

keep ur boosted nissans but we get your cousians hatch lol

LOLOLOL

[Manny]

keep ur boosted nissans but we get your cousians hatch lol
Why? The hatch got a SR20 in it:owneddanc

[M.A.R.C.]

Why? The hatch got a SR20 in it:owneddanc

but then it would be slow. why would he do that?

[ROB]

keep ur boosted nissans but we get your cousians hatch lol

Thats like a conflict of interest :p

I will put a Nissan badge on it. LMAO!!! :thumbup:

[ROB]

but then it would be slow. why would he do that?

Marc when have you been fast? I am just curious :dunno:







:p

[M.A.R.C.]

Marc when have you been fast? I am just curious :dunno:







:p


never... i've only been a dyno queen :( and barely even that. only a dyno princess :(

[GDM Z28]

Thats like a conflict of interest :p

I will put a Nissan badge on it. LMAO!!! :thumbup:\

thats fine cause the 800whp z06 just got a honda badge on it lmfao

[ROB]

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thats fine cause the 800whp z06 just got a honda badge on it lmfao


LMAO:D

Damn inbreds :bowrofl:

[ROB]

never... i've only been a dyno queen :( and barely even that. only a dyno princess :(

Bro I have been building my car up for the past 8 months. We both suck :dunno:

[@ll Moto-R]

Let me just clear the record up........

HONDA SOHC-T > ALL!
















Disclaimer:
not based on a true story or actual events

[M.A.R.C.]

Let me just clear the record up........

HONDA SOHC-T > ALL!

Disclaimer:
not based on a true story or actual events



stay in your corner one cam man.

[SpdRcrChk]

so let's set a date guys. howbout week after xmas. :D

[ROB]

so let's set a date guys. howbout week after xmas. :D

I won't be ready :dunno:




stay in your corner one cam man.

Whats wrong with these one cam guys? :dunno:


Little kids want to run before they can walk :bowrofl:

[GDM Z28]

stay in your corner one cam man.

i know a few one cam cars you can run (ws6, z06, etc) :ohnoes:

[SpdRcrChk]

^^ can he run yours? no? ok then STFU. :)

[Yani]

\

thats fine cause the 800whp z06 just got a honda badge on it lmfao


that car is insane....

[ROB]

^^ can he run yours? no? ok then STFU. :)


MAJOR OWNAGE!!! :cooldance

[M.A.R.C.]

^^ can he run yours? no? ok then STFU. :)
:bowrofl:

[GDM Z28]

^^ can he run yours? no? ok then STFU. :)

::Edit::

im in a good mood and dont feel like arguing.....he can run mine once i get back from cali....it will be running :)

[GDM Z28]

that car is insane....

off bottle it only went 12.2 :ohnoes: but @ what mph? :naughty:

next time we go to the track and he goes he might spray it

[M.A.R.C.]

off bottle it only went 12.2 :ohnoes: but @ what mph? :naughty:

oh noes... :ohnoes:

[TIS1]

I say......BOTH!