Fynetune's 610awhp Evolution VIII

[fynetune]

STAGE 1 KIT FOR FYNETUNE IS ALMOST COMPLETE AND WANTED TO SHARE THE TEST RESULTS.

THIS IS A GT40 TURBO RUNNING C16 ON STOCK BOTTOM END AND HEAD WITH HKS 280 CAMS AND HKS CAM GEARS @ 33psi. WE ARE IN FINAL DEVELOPMENT WITH THIS KIT AND WILL CONTINUE TO SHARE NUMBERS WITH YOU GUY'S.

ENJOY THE RESULTS FOR NOW....

http://www.fynetuneperformance.com/dynoruns/610awhp.jpg

[Sxt-Rich]

Nice numbers, how much psi was this on??

[Mikey]

says 33 lbs on the OPs post

[GDM Z28]

is this a black one? with a shorter skinner kid driving?

[R@mon]

also why did you guys stop the party so early. 6.5k is nothing for a 4g63

[Robi]

nice! sick! dyno sex!

[Phil]

God damn 33psi on a gt40 and only making 600?

[M.A.R.C.]

God damn 33psi on a gt40 and only making 600?

it's an evo... not a honda

[Phil]

it's an evo... not a honda
I retract my prior statement

[Robi]

and ONLY making 600AWHP! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[R@mon]

God damn 33psi on a gt40 and only making 600?


if you notice it stopped reving at 6.5k and the torque was still climbing i would doubt on the same boost level have it go deep 600's if not low to mid 700's at a higher rpm... but then again, its just a guess......:owneddanc

[Yani]

God damn 33psi on a gt40 and only making 600?


theres a lot more to power than just psi and turbo size.

[Robi]

theres a lot more to power than just psi and turbo size.Thank you, not only that, but like if 600AWHP aint enough.

I wish I can hit 400awhp. :hsughno:

[Yani]

Thank you, not only that, but like if 600AWHP aint enough.

I wish I can hit 400awhp. :hsughno:


its really not that enough when most people are putting down 600 now a days. to be considered fast in an evo you now need over 800 awhp.

[Boostjunkie]

Nice numbers, next time wind it up to 7.5k rpms.

[Mikey]

where does the evo redline?

[Phil]

theres a lot more to power than just psi and turbo size.
imo they could have made the same power with less boost

[Robi]

imo they could have made the same power with less boostHow do you know? How many Evos have you worked on that produce big numbers?

Serious question.

[frawsty]

[QUOTE=GDM Z28]is this a black one? with a shorter skinner kid driving?[/QUOTEthats bennys car i belive this one is white but im not sure

[Boostjunkie]

where does the evo redline?

7000rpm

[Phil]

2 im just thinking if a gt35R makes around 500 at 22 psi on c16 shouldnt a larger turbo make ita lil bit more than that?

[Yani]

imo they could have made the same power with less boost


i think they said stock head and stock block and it only revs til 6700 or so. as rpm come up, hp goes up too. hp is relative to tq and rpm. with out more rpm it wont make more power. or maybe they're running more conservative on the timing, or running a more conservative fuel tune. it can be a million things that have nothing to do with the turbo selection and psi.

[Phil]

ok

[esco115]

Damn 600hp and only 486 on tq... but than again they not done... put a Stage 3 on that shit... 900+hp AWD ftw :owneddanc

[OfourTHREEfive]

Nice numbers, next time wind it up to 7.5k rpms.
It is still a dsm tho..

[Robi]

It is still a dsm tho..
sorry but Evos are NOT DSMs

[Phil]

sorry but Evos are NOT DSMs


they arent reped by a 3 diamond emblem anymore?

[Robi]

Sorry, but I understand as a DSM as mitsubishi eclipse and eagle talons, NOT EVOS.

Unless he actually meant DSM as in a Mitsu.

[OfourTHREEfive]

they arent reped by a 3 diamond emblem anymore?
news to me, and robi at heart they still are :lawl:
Edit: i just read your post robi, that is what i meant in my book dsm=mitsu

[Boostjunkie]

It is still a dsm tho..

Um, no its not. And even if it was, why would that matter? :dunno:

[OfourTHREEfive]

jus kidding bro, dont take it seriously.

[Brendon]

not a dsm....

[KingDavid]

Thank you, not only that, but like if 600AWHP aint enough.

I wish I can hit 400awhp. :hsughno:If I remember correctly, you drive a 3kgt. Is it that hard to go 400AWHP? I thought you could do that on stock turbos.

[GDM Z28]

Um, no its not. And even if it was, why would that matter? :dunno:

mitsubishi is part of dimond star motors isnt it?

[Yani]

mitsubishi is part of dimond star motors isnt it?


vw owns lamborghini, does that make my old gti a gallardo?

[GDM Z28]

vw owns lamborghini, does that make my old gti a gallardo?

what the hell does that have to do with what i said?

a gallardo is a type of lambo...so therefore a gallardo is a lambo. if there was a name like "dsm" for VW's then yes i would call the gallardo a DSM since vw's were known as dsm's and vw makes lambos.

Everyone said they consider an eclipse a DSM....which is made by mitsu.....so why isnt a evo a dsm if it is also made by mitsu and it rocks the diamond star for diamond star motors.

[Yani]

what the hell does that have to do with what i said?

a gallardo is a type of lambo...so therefore a gallardo is a lambo. if there was a name like "dsm" for VW's then yes i would call the gallardo a DSM since vw's were known as dsm's and vw makes lambos.

Everyone said they consider an eclipse a DSM....which is made by mitsu.....so why isnt a evo a dsm if it is also made by mitsu and it rocks the diamond star for diamond star motors.

it means that just because a certain mitsubishi product was a dsm, doesnt mean they all are.
ok lets try again, the turbo plymouth laser is a dsm right? so does that mean a plymouth neon is a dsm too?

[GDM Z28]

it means that just because a certain mitsubishi product was a dsm, doesnt mean they all are.
ok lets try again, the turbo plymouth laser is a dsm right? so does that mean a plymouth neon is a dsm too?

was it made by Diamond Star Motors?

[S.e.a.n.]

aaww bwoy you guess have drift of topic again...good numbers thou i wish i could make 600+ hp

[Mikey]

what the hell does that have to do with what i said?

a gallardo is a type of lambo...so therefore a gallardo is a lambo. if there was a name like "dsm" for VW's then yes i would call the gallardo a DSM since vw's were known as dsm's and vw makes lambos.

Everyone said they consider an eclipse a DSM....which is made by mitsu.....so why isnt a evo a dsm if it is also made by mitsu and it rocks the diamond star for diamond star motors.

this has to be one of the most confusing posts i have ever read.

[OfourTHREEfive]

^^true isnt a dsm=mitsubishi?

[GDM Z28]

this has to be one of the most confusing posts i have ever read.

you drive a subaru i dont expect you to understand anything :p

[eviltwin]

um...... dont these things have the exact same motor as the turbo eclipse?????

[Yani]

um...... dont these things have the exact same motor as the turbo eclipse?????


Same engine code, that's about it

[Yani]

was it made by Diamond Star Motors?

Nope, diamond star motors is a collaboration of mitsubishi and chrysler. Mitsubishi makes the evolution, chysler has no part in it.

[Robi]

If I remember correctly, you drive a 3kgt. Is it that hard to go 400AWHP? I thought you could do that on stock turbos.Stock turboes? nah, very hard. Our drivetrain sux major ass.

Nope, diamond star motors is a collaboration of mitsubishi and chrysler. Mitsubishi makes the evolution, chysler has no part in it.Thank you sir. You are smarter than what you aparent! LOL j/k, dont take offense to it, or personal!

[Robi]

mitsubishi is part of dimond star motors isnt it?Not anymore, that was a long time ago.

[eviltwin]

no variations in the engine code? is it exact, or does it change? if it has the exact engine code, i assume it would be the exact same. for instance, b18b, b18c1, b18c5.... and so on. please elaborate.

[Yani]

no variations in the engine code? is it exact, or does it change? if it has the exact engine code, i assume it would be the exact same. for instance, b18b, b18c1, b18c5.... and so on. please elaborate.

98 and 01 b18c5's have the same code but different cams, jdm auto b16a's have different valvetrains from 5 speed b16's,


I might be wrong but I think the evo motor spins in the opposite direction of the eclipse motors.

[fynetune]

Ladies and Gents,

Just to give you more info one this particular subject; we can create way more power than what you see here but there are numerous overwhelming factors to consider and here are two of them.

1. We are running a 3.5 bar map sensor so as we all know this is only good for 35psi. Anything above that you are playing a dangerous game cause the car can wither run too rich which makes little to no more power or it could run way to lean which as you all know kiss the engine goodbye. So we choose to conserve and do neither until we upgrade to a 5 bar map sensor.

1.5. We are using a HKS EVC which is only rated for35psi max. Anything after that the boost controller fails to stock spring rate which is 14.75psi.

2. Engine is as we have said completely stock except for the cams. Now being from the Caribbean where we have been running evo's from the 1 we have seen where the limits of a stock bottom end is and it is rated for some where in the 55 to 580 mark depending on luck of the draw. So pushing anything above that is taking a chance. We will not push more horse power until we do some more modes but wanted to see how the stage one kit would react. We are looking to run 600 to 610 on this car for a while and then pull the engine to see what the wear on it was, so when building for our customers we do it right and not use there car as the g-pig.

3. This again is stock bottom with a 1.5 mm head gasket which as you know lowers the compression of the engine from its stock 9-1 which will make you loss some bottom and mid range power but will be killer in the ¼ mile. Again we are constantly tuning the car to make street able for everyday use and so far it has been fine.

Please not we do not use our customer’s cars as test beds we use our own and trying never to do so unless the customer requests that of us. Also (Frawsty) it is not Benny’s car or the white one (although that one is almost ready to go with an even bigger turbo and full built engine but I will keep you up on that when we do it) but mine (Andre) is the silver one which you should know which one that is.

For all those that are attending the Dynoday it will be there for you to see. If anyone would like more info please feel free to come by the shop and ask for me anytime…..

[frawsty]

yea cant wait to see the white one run its gettin close

[Mikey]

fynetune, do you guys tune subies as well as the evos?

[fynetune]

Yes we do. I just sold my two because we just had too many cars. One was at silver 05 with a Greddy T67 kit with perrin front mount and pe injectors and perrin fuel rail. making 410awhp and 389awtrq. Hydra EMS standalone

the other was some what modified for the wife. We are planning to get one back soon.

[Mikey]

hmm, hopefully ill be able to make it out to the dyno day. maybe we can talk about about getting my sti tuned.

[fynetune]

No prob anytime

[OfourTHREEfive]

Nope, diamond star motors is a collaboration of mitsubishi and chrysler. Mitsubishi makes the evolution, chysler has no part in it.
Alrighty then, im wrong
Yani+Robi=1
Me=0 :o

[Boostjunkie]

jus kidding bro, dont take it seriously.

I wasn't taking it seriously, just correcting you.

[GDM Z28]

Nope, diamond star motors is a collaboration of mitsubishi and chrysler. Mitsubishi makes the evolution, chysler has no part in it.

so why isnt an evo considered a DSM if mitsubishi makes it?

[GDM Z28]

Not anymore, that was a long time ago.

then why does it have a diamond star motors sign on the front?

[Yani]

then why does it have a diamond star motors sign on the front?


thats a mitsubishi sign, not a diamond star motors sign. my tv has the same sign on it, are you going to say my mitsubishi tv is a diamond star MOTOR too?

[Yani]

so why isnt an evo considered a DSM if mitsubishi makes it?


because without chrysler there is no DSM.

[diablo2184]

yo Andre, show them how clean your Scooby was if you find any pics...

[Robi]

Here is the mitsubishi DIAMOND
http://www.conceptcarcollection.com/emblem/mitsu3dsm.jpg

And

Here is the daimler chrysler STAR
http://www.conceptcarcollection.com/emblem/chrys3dsm.gif

Together they formed Diamond Star Motors It was collaboration, that ended roughly around 1999

COMPRENDE?!?

[M.A.R.C.]

mitsu = dsm for me... just easier to say/type/refer to

[Robi]

mitsu = dsm for me... just easier to say/type/refer toLOL, do you call a mitsubishi TV or a Mitsubishi SUV a DSM? LOL if you do, you will sound really stupido! :smile:

[GDM Z28]

for the love of god all someone had to do was do a 2 sec search in google post this up and i would of shut up.

http://www.machv.com/diamstarmoth.html

[Robi]

Why search when a few of us here, were schooling you. You didnt believe us?

[Yani]

for the love of god all someone had to do was do a 2 sec search in google post this up and i would of shut up.

http://www.machv.com/diamstarmoth.html


we knew what we were talking about, you didnt. if anyone should have to do the research its you, not us.

[M.A.R.C.]

LOL, do you call a mitsubishi TV or a Mitsubishi SUV a DSM? LOL if you do, you will sound really stupido! :smile:

bah it's a TV... it's name or brand has no significance to me as long as it serves its purpose

[GDM Z28]

Why search when a few of us here, were schooling you. You didnt believe us?

half the time you dont know what your talking about so no i didnt believe you.

[R@mon]

bah it's a TV... it's name or brand has no significance to me as long as it serves its purpose


its pRoN time!!!!:naughty:

lol jk

[Robi]

half the time you dont know what your talking about so no i didnt believe you.And you know more? :rolleyes: :rofl: :rofl:

[Brendon]

well mitsu definitly makes better tvs than cars

[GDM Z28]

And you know more? :rolleyes: :rofl: :rofl:

then you? i sure do. if it comes to why one type of mitsu is a dsm but another isnt then your right you were right i was wrong. sad thing is during this whole thread you couldnt say WHY it was that way. You just repeat shit you hear. If someone needs help and i have done it before i will help them/do it not repeat something i was "told" :rolleyes:

[nos51]

hey congrats andre!!the car is going to be really fast on the street!i will see you tomorrow,will be there to help you guys out....also who cares if the evo is a dsm or not,this thread is about the #s the evo just made..there is like 2 pages of crap about what a dsm is........wish these threads would stay on topic instead of being a chat room.....

[oneIricky]

hey congrats andre!!the car is going to be really fast on the street!i will see you tomorrow,will be there to help you guys out....also who cares if the evo is a dsm or not,this thread is about the #s the evo just made..there is like 2 pages of crap about what a dsm is........wish these threads would stay on topic instead of being a chat room.....
word!

[Robi]

then you? i sure do. if it comes to why one type of mitsu is a dsm but another isnt then your right you were right i was wrong. sad thing is during this whole thread you couldnt say WHY it was that way. You just repeat shit you hear. If someone needs help and i have done it before i will help them/do it not repeat something i was "told" :rolleyes:Did sand crawl up your mangina? :rolleyes: What the fuck do YOU know about what I know?

You think I am new at this whole DSM argument? Atleast now you wont sound stupid. Seriously YOU Dont like my replies? cry me a fucking river, and when have I stated I know anything?

I can care less what you think, seems like you took to heart my last two replies. Get over it, you got schooled by ME (a person who doesnt know anything acording to you) and others.

[GDM Z28]

Did sand crawl up your mangina? :rolleyes: What the fuck do YOU know about what I know?

this is the internet buddy....you have no idea how i feel by my posts since your just reading what i am saying....so when you read what i post you ASSUME i am upset and your wrong buddy.

You think I am new at this whole DSM argument? Atleast now you wont sound stupid. Seriously YOU Dont like my replies? cry me a fucking river, and when have I stated I know anything?

did i say you said you know anything? no i simply said you dont know anything i never said you said you know shit.....learn to read. i could care less if your new to the "dsm arguments" or not you say shit and never use proff so who the hell should take you seriously.

I can care less what you think, seems like you took to heart my last two replies. Get over it, you got schooled by ME (a person who doesnt know anything acording to you) and others.

again i dont take shit to heart on here....its the internet....first of all i didnt get "schooled" by you....yaniel makes for a better argueing buddy then you do. You might of been right but atleast he says shit that tells you why he was right. :rolleyes:

[GDM Z28]

hey congrats andre!!the car is going to be really fast on the street!i will see you tomorrow,will be there to help you guys out....also who cares if the evo is a dsm or not,this thread is about the #s the evo just made..there is like 2 pages of crap about what a dsm is........wish these threads would stay on topic instead of being a chat room.....

its the internet....nothing stays on topic.

[xs_wrx]

wow... 200whp at 5,000RPM looks like LOTS of fun! you have like 200rpm of usable powerband. I've seen this car in person and its B-E-A-U-TIFUL.. but I dont think that the GT40 is a good match for that motor.. a 35R and some alky/water injection along with some c16 will get you in the 600's. There are several WRX/STi making 600+ on a 35R.

-alan

[D@nny]

haters.....

[Robi]

D@nny is that twilight in your avatar?

[D@nny]

yea it is

[fynetune]

xs_wrx , whenever your ready for a ride in the car let me know. we are 100 percent sure you will change the sound of your tune once your inside with me.... Let me know the offer is there for you....... also bring me one STI that is making 600 awhp that you know and have personally see to the shop and I will throw it on the DYno for free and also give then a 2 hour tuning session for free anytime that they want. (Street car like you say). Just to let you know I have owned 2 05 STI's and I know what they are capable of so please bring it ASAP.....

No hard feelings just want to see someone for the first time bring what they say to the table....

P.S. Thanks for the props on the car.......Glad you liked it...

[dhooks]

mad nice place. they just neeed a parking lot thats a tad bigger lol

[nos51]

xs_wrx , whenever your ready for a ride in the car let me know. we are 100 percent sure you will change the sound of your tune once your inside with me.... Let me know the offer is there for you....... also bring me one STI that is making 600 awhp that you know and have personally see to the shop and I will throw it on the DYno for free and also give then a 2 hour tuning session for free anytime that they want. (Street car like you say). Just to let you know I have owned 2 05 STI's and I know what they are capable of so please bring it ASAP.....

No hard feelings just want to see someone for the first time bring what they say to the table....

P.S. Thanks for the props on the car.......Glad you liked it...

thats what i am saying....i have yet to see a really fast wrx down here,maybe its just me..........some people always have a friend that has a friend that has a friend making these #s or going this fast...

[Phil]

Dont wrx motors fail at around 500 whp?

[fynetune]

rings are the first thing to go

[diablo2184]

the Evo is sick. been in it before and its definitely a nice ride.

[jdmCD5]

fynetune coming up real fast......building fast azz cars

[2rotormotor]

Im not sure why you guys went with a gt40... Im positive you guys have more experience with them than many people, but that powerband is not ideal... IMHO I think the gt35r woulda been the better suited...

[EXTREMUM]

well mitsu definitly makes better tvs than cars

They sure do. My father's 46" Mitsubishi rear-projection screen is 15 years old, on the original 4-tube setup. And, it still has the best picture I've ever seen, on a rear-projection big screen.

[2rotormotor]

They sure do. My father's 46" Mitsubishi rear-projection screen is 15 years old, on the original 4-tube setup. And, it still has the best picture I've ever seen, on a rear-projection big screen.
better dan dlp?

[EXTREMUM]

I think it's better than DLP, in non-HD mode. However, against DLP HDTV? Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! :D

[2rotormotor]

Not in HD, since HD never existed back then. However, I'm sure it'll beat a DLP, in non-HD format.
Damn, I gotta see this 14y/o tv... I know people with older PTV's and they suck.. you get like 45degrees viewing angle. Even the new ones suck, I hate PTV's.. but if its really that good, then I give props..+

[EXTREMUM]

Yeah, I'm overly impressed with the model my father has. You don't get much viewing angle glare, unless you're sitting at a sharp angle away from the screen - that's common. Even then, it's not that bad, compared to a LCD screen. The price tag was over $3500, back then. :eek:

Worth every penny, IMO though.

[2rotormotor]

Yeah, I'm overly impressed with the model my father has. It was over $3500, back then. :eek:

Worth every penny, IMO though.
not bad, 14 years paid for it...

[EXTREMUM]

Yeah, it's still has a crystal-clear picture, too. The rise of digital cable converters back in the day, made it even better.

PS - my apologies for jacking the thread, but after seven pages of reading arguements over the definition of Diamond Star Motors, I spotted the post on Mitsubishi TVs, so I figured, "hey, wtf...". :rofl:

[2rotormotor]

If it has DSM somewhere on the car, then guess what, its a dsm. Just because eclipses use it often or are more common doesn't mean its the only dsm. My 94 galant is a dsm...

[EXTREMUM]

If it has DSM somewhere on the car, then guess what, its a dsm. Just because eclipses use it often or are more common doesn't mean its the only dsm. My 94 galant is a dsm...

Dodge Spirit RS = old school Mitsubishi Galant VR4?

If so, then those are DSM. Anything after those models (I think they were '89-'91) - no...

DSM = Chrysler and Mitsubishi predecessors, which are no longer in production.

It's no different, than saying Lucas and Spielberg = Dreamworks, not LucasFilms or Spielberg Productions.

[Yani]

Im not sure why you guys went with a gt40... Im positive you guys have more experience with them than many people, but that powerband is not ideal... IMHO I think the gt35r woulda been the better suited...

Yea at this point the gt35 would've been better, but they probably plan to raise the rev limit eventually and that will help a lot and the gt40 will then be better suited than the gt35r.

My powerband wasn't ideal before but now with the ems and like 1500 more rpm it'll be perfectly ideal. No point in buying two turbos.

[2rotormotor]

Dodge Spirit RS = old school Mitsubishi Galant VR4?

If so, then those are DSM. Anything after those models (I think they were '89-'91) - no...

DSM = Chrysler and Mitsubishi predecessors, which are no longer in production.

It's no different, than saying Lucas and Spielberg = Dreamworks, not LucasFilms or Spielberg Productions.
my 94 galant has dsm clearly stamped both in the firewall and on the stickers...

[2rotormotor]

Yea at this point the gt35 would've been better, but they probably plan to raise the rev limit eventually and that will help a lot and the gt40 will then be better suited than the gt35r.

My powerband wasn't ideal before but now with the ems and like 1500 more rpm it'll be perfectly ideal. No point in buying two turbos.

WEll look at their powerband, 200awhp at 5k rpms... Something aint right there.. is the gt40 bigger than a t70? That graph kinda looks like how my turbo would behave in first gear. But other than that, spool was pretty good.. Assuming thats a 4th gear pull, thats rediculous...

[EXTREMUM]

What A/R turbine is on that turbo?

[EXTREMUM]

my 94 galant has dsm clearly stamped both in the firewall and on the stickers...

Dodge Shadow predecessor, eh?

[2rotormotor]

What A/R turbine is on that turbo?
You mean housing? I dunno, but it seems kinda dumb to have that turbo on a stage 1 kit...

[EXTREMUM]

.63? .82? 1.01? :run:

[2rotormotor]

.63? .82? 1.01? :run:
Lol I know, but its housing not turbine.

[EXTREMUM]

Don't mind me. I get rather edgy on here, when I'm bored at work - nothing personal against you, or anyone else. At least, I leave in 30 minutes - w00t! :D

[M.A.R.C.]

Lol I know, but its housing not turbine.

it is turbine... it's understood when someone asks for the a/r on the turbine they mean the housing. if they said trim then you could assume the wheel.

[2rotormotor]

it is turbine... it's understood when someone asks for the a/r on the turbine they mean the housing. if they said trim then you could assume the wheel.

WEll its turbine housing... w.e. I see where you are getting at...

[EXTREMUM]

it is turbine... it's understood when someone asks for the a/r on the turbine they mean the housing. if they said trim then you could assume the wheel.

OMG, there is hope in here, afterall!!! LOL, just messin' rotormotor. Ok, I'm going home now! :D

[Yani]

.63? .82? 1.01? :run:
None of the above those are t3 housings, this is a t4 turbo.